Permission to Dream BIG, with Mitch Matthews

31 Jul Permission to Dream BIG, with Mitch Matthews

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I’m going to share some stories I’ve never shared before. How about that? I’ll be sharing some stories connected with The BIG Dream Gathering, an event that you may have attended, maybe not. If you haven’t, I’m going to get you information so that you can attend one in the future. We’re doing them all across the country this fall and would love to see you at an event. But I want to share with you three stories that I’ve not shared before.

Each one is going to have something that I’ve realized has been so important to me over the last few years. These stories will help you go after your dreams, get more clear on your dreams, stay with it on your dreams. Maybe just as importantly, they’ll help you to help someone else do that. Because if you’re a DREAM THINK DO-er, you’re all about dreaming bigger, thinking better, and doing more of the stuff you were put on the planet to do.

By the way, I’ll just put it out there, one of the stories is kind of embarrassing for me to tell you. That’s why I’ve not shared it before. It’s something my wife knows about. It’s a business story, you can probably put it in the “embarrassing disasters” category, but I learned something that’s guided me now and helped me grow my own business. But more importantly, what I learned from it, I’ve taught others.

I’m excited about sharing these stories for a couple of reasons.

Recently I’ve been doing a bunch of podcast interviews. Not for DREAM THINK DO, but on other podcasts around the world. People have found out about Dream Job Redefined, my newest book. If you haven’t gotten it, go grab it. It’s available on Amazon. Because of that, I’ve been doing a bunch of interviews with some great podcasts; I love it.

But in that book, Dream Job Redefined, I share about The BIG Dream Gathering. The event that we do around the country. The event that got started in my living room as a happy accident. I didn’t mean for it to happen, but I’m very glad it did, and that’s turned into something much bigger than I could’ve imagined. In doing these interviews for the book, I talk a good bit about The BIG Dream Gathering. I realized, as I was thinking back, here at DREAM THINK DO we’re on our 187th episode, and I know I’ve mentioned The BIG Dream Gathering in passing sometimes. But I don’t know that I’ve ever actually told the origin story of how it got started. I don’t spend a lot of time talking about it on the podcast.

So with this episode, I want to tell a little of the origin story of The BIG Dream Gathering. What it is, how it got started, all of that, but also three stories, again, that I haven’t shared before. Some of the kind of timeless truth that I needed to learn, or at least be reminded of, as a part of those experiences. I want to share those with you now. Because I want to inspire you. I want to encourage you to get clear on your dreams and start to go after those at new levels. I think we all need encouragement to take a second and to permit ourselves to dream, and that’s what The BIG Dream Gathering is all about. That’s what this podcast is all about.

You may be familiar with The BIG Dream Gathering. If you are, fantastic, I hope you’ve attended an event. If not, here’s what it’s about: The BIG Dream Gathering is an event that we do all across the country, it kicks off with a little keynote from me. I’m a storyteller, so I tell some stories on the front-end to get people thinking and get them a little encouraged. All of those things. Then we cut them loose to think about some of their dreams, write them down on sheets of paper; we call those dream sheets.

Then we put them up on the walls, and go around and look at each other’s dreams. We write on each other’s dream sheets – words of encouragement, ideas, suggestions, offers to help. We’ve had all sorts of crazy, cool experiences, all sorts of amazing connections happen, but most of all, people just tell us, “Thank you for creating a safe place to dream.” Also, people are a little surprised, but often they’ll say, “Thanks so much for creating a safe place where people can just encourage each other.” I don’t know about you, but I think in this world, there’s so much focus on all the division and all of the places where we don’t agree with each other. It’s nice to be in a space where we may not agree with each other on all fronts, but we’re all human beings, I think most people are kind if you give them the chance to be so.

The BIG Dream Gathering is just one of those spaces that allow for encouragement and connection. =I love what it’s become, but it initially started as an act of total and utter desperation.

Some years ago, back in 2005, I got hit with an idea. It was to create a product, a game that would help people to connect. It was a question-based game. I started to test it out a little bit, tried it out with my friends. They loved it, so I created kind of a prototype, and started to test it out with people. They all loved it. Basically, in the spring of 2006, thought about it, prayed about it, talked to my wife about it, decided to go for it. I loved to see what this game seemed to be doing with people. It was allowing people to connect, people that knew each other, people that didn’t. I wanted to see more of that in the world.

I decided to go after it. I was a new entrepreneur, and it meant investing in it, investing money, but also investing time. We did that. It represented a risk, but initially, everything went great, we met the right people, doors started to open, things were clicking, and I thought, “Aw yeah, this is a dead ringer, I’m so on with this. It’s going to be amazing.”

Then in May 2006, everything fell apart. Everything. We had been working with the designer for months on the design of the game, and she called to let me know that her computer crashed, and we lost all those files, all those designs, all those months of work just puff, gone. We had a manufacturer that we’ve been working with, thought it was a great fit, all just right on track, then that relationship started to really fracture. There were problems outside our control; it was nuts. Just kind of like came out of nowhere.

Then we got hit with just a bunch of financial things. Some challenges with our house, and some challenges with another part of our business. All of a sudden everything was tight. We were tight on time; we were so tight on money. It was brutal. I’ll never forget, it was on a Saturday morning, and I was sitting in my office. I was tired, I was scared, I was frustrated, and I was embarrassed. It’s even almost hard to admit now, but I was embarrassed. I didn’t want people to know that things weren’t going well. I just wanted to cover it up. In fact, I just wanted to quit.

I thought, “Maybe if there was just some way I could sneak away from this.” I wanted to do that. Then, I sat there, I was thinking, and praying, and I got hit with this realization that I’ve been trying to do it alone. My wife Melissa had been helping me, but in the big scheme of things, I’d been trying to navigate all of it by myself, and I needed help. I hated to admit that. I still am not great for asking for help. I’m getting better, but I’m still not great at it. Then I was really bad at it. I started to think, “Gosh, all right, maybe I could ask for some help. But who would I ask for help?” I started to think of some friends and all of that, and started thinking, “Maybe they could get on board, maybe they’d help.”

Then I had a very quick realization after that was if I’m going to ask my friends for help with my dream, I should probably know what their dreams are. Maybe I could help them with their dreams. This idea started to come to mind of having people come to our house to write down some dreams, put them on sheets of paper, put them up on the walls, and then go around and look at each other’s dreams, see if we could help each other out. Proof positive that I married up, because I went to my wife, and even though we were out of time, and out of options, and out of money, my big solution was to throw a party.

But she went for it. I think she was thinking, “Well, Can it hurt?” We did it. I quick threw an email together and put in the subject line BIG Dream Gathering. I described what I thought we were going to be doing, bring everybody together, write down some dreams, put them up on the wall, see if we could help each other out. I hit send. Sent it out to 30 friends. We were shocked that even though I sent it in an email, which is kind of cheesy, it was kind of a weird idea and short-noticed. This was Saturday morning that I’m sending this invitation out, I make it for Tuesday night because I’m desperate. But out of those 30 people we invited, 29 of them showed up. It was crazy.

Then, we kind of lost control from there. Those people brought people, we thought it was just going to be for a couple of hours on a Tuesday night, but it wound up going for a full week. Absolutely amazing. It was kind of cool and kind of weird all at the same time. Here these people were dreaming, writing dreams down, putting them up on sheets of paper, going around, writing on each other’s dream sheets, but also talking to each other. Total strangers sometimes, just talking about dreams. “What’s your dream? What’s your dream? That’s so cool. Have you tried this? You should look at this. Have you read this book?” It was incredible.

It was a little bit weird to lose control of our house, but if you’re ever going to lose control of your house, I suppose this is the reason to do it. At the end of that time, we got that board came into production. We were able to get it in stores by Christmas. It became a success story in and of itself. It’s a lot of fun. But a lot of other people got help too, in big ways. But the biggest thing was that people kept saying, “Thanks for creating that safe space. That safe space to dream and to dream together.” We continued on, a bit reluctantly to be honest. But after some people convinced us to do it, we did it again on about the year anniversary of that first one. This time we held it at a warehouse in Downtown Des Moines. We had 300 people show up. That was before Twitter. It was really before Facebook.

It was crazy. But to see people doing that same thing, dreaming together and helping each other out, it was just incredible. Then get it once a year, annually, in Des Moines for a while. The third one, we had people from all over the country. We had a number of different states, people had heard about it. Now, we get to do it all across the country. We’re doing ten events, 11 events this fall. I’d love for you to get to come to one of them.

We’ve had people post they want to write books, and they go on to write best-selling books. We’ve had people say they want to launch businesses or nonprofits, we’ve had people want to skydive, and run marathons. We’ve had all sorts of people.

At these events, we get to hear about all sorts of cool, big stuff. But I have to admit that some of my favorite stories are ones that aren’t so public, they aren’t so big. In some ways, by maybe the world standards, but are still so important. I’ll give you an example. We were doing a BIG Dream Gathering, and a mother-daughter came and afterward. The daughter was probably in her late 20s, and I’m guessing the mom was maybe in her late 50s, maybe early 60s.

Most people that come to the gathering are not sure what their dreams are when they walk in the door, but they come because they want to figure that out. The mom said, “Gosh, I really can’t even remember the last time I allowed myself to dream.” They went and started to look at other people’s dreams, write some dreams down themselves. Later on, I was able to kind of move around the room a little bit. But I was stationed close to this mother and daughter as they were having a conversation.

Now, I’ve gotten pretty good at eavesdropping. If you’re standing next to me in a BIG Dream Gathering, just know there’s a chance I’m listening to what you’re saying. But I would hear this interaction, and what I love is the daughter asked the question, “So, what’s one of your dreams, mom? What’s one of your dreams?” The mom got real quiet, looked around a little bit, leaned in a little bit. You could tell that she maybe didn’t want the world to know, but she said, “I don’t know if I’ve ever told you, but I always wanted to be in the theater.”

She continued, “You know the school I went to was really small. We didn’t have a theater department. After school, I just got busy, and then we had you guys, and all that. I just never got back around to it. But I kind of thought, it’d be fun to do something in the theater.” By this time, I’m trying to not get busted for listening to their conversation. I’m able to position myself so that I can see the daughter. As I’m watching this daughter respond, she gets misty. She said, “Mom, how we never talked about this.” She said, “I always wanted to be in the theater.” Her mom was like, “Really? Why didn’t we talk about this?”

The daughter said, “My high school, you know, had a theater department. I could’ve, but I didn’t ever have the confidence to do it in high school. I guess I just never thought about doing it in college.” The mom said, “What did you write down?” The daughter was like, “To do something in community theater.” The mom said, “Me too!” It was so cool to see, and it so often happens with two friends or two family members. Maybe they’ve known each other their whole life. They get in an environment to finally talk about their dreams and all of a sudden they might realize, “Oh my gosh, they’ve got the same dream.” I was seeing this play out.

I can tell you; I want to be real upfront. I do not think, I don’t know for sure, I can’t say for sure, but I do not think that this mother-daughter team then went and got active in their local community and are now on Broadway. I’m not going to tell you that. In 30 days or less, they were on Broadway. But I can tell you there was something very special that happened there. I just loved it. They gave themselves permission to dream, but also this daughter asked the question. She was very intentional. I will admit, I gave out a form of this question because we talked about it a little bit earlier. But she tweaked it; she made it better.

Here’s the thing: so often when people want to dream with someone else, whether it’s a spouse, somebody they’re dating, a friend, a co-worker, they might ask about the dreams, but so often, “So, what’s your big dream?” They ask the big question. All of a sudden, you see the person that they’re asking, it just gets locked up. At The BIG Dream Gatherings, we try to get people to write down a bunch of dreams. Because what happens when you ask somebody what’s your one dream? What’s the big dream?

So often a person gets locked up. Asking them about their dreams is a pretty big question in any way. Often, the gears grind to a halt if you push a person to decide in the moment – what’s the BIG dream?

This daughter had applied something that we talked about earlier. Instead of pushing for the big dream, she asked, “What’s one of your dreams?” That allowed for possibility. It also didn’t force her mom to just come up with one. That allowed her mom to kind of step into the question, to “dream a little dream” with her daughter.

So that’s my first tip, my first strategy: if you’re going to ask somebody about their dreams, don’t ask them what’s that one big dream, ask them what might be your dream? Or what’s one of your dreams? Give them room to think about what their dreams might be. We all have more than one. You don’t need to worry about whether it’s big, or small.

Give that person a little bit of freedom. Give them a little bit of room. Don’t make them decide what’s the one big dream. Open up that door of possibility and say, “Hey, what are some of your dreams?” Give them a little bit elbow room and see where the question takes you.

Okay, that’s story one. Be intentional with the question that you ask. Story number two, this is the one where it’s a little embarrassing. Kind of a lot embarrassing actually. But I’ll try to give you the short version of it. It’s an embarrassing story, a little bit of a weird story. But I think it might help you.

I’ve been an entrepreneur for a long time, since 2002. I also do a lot of creative stuff. A lot of my day job is doing BIG Dream Gatherings, but I’m also speaking around the country, getting to work with organizations, speaking with them about dreaming big, thinking better, doing more. A lot of what that is, is creative thinking, innovative thinking, how to pull through ideas, how to bring excellence, all of those things.

My clients know that I’m not necessarily naturally a creative guy, but I love to see that in others, so I try to cultivate it in myself. Sometimes when they have a problem, they’ll reach out and say, “Hey, what would you do with this?” Or they might say, “Hey, Mitch might have an idea on this?” I had a client reach out and say, “Hey, I have an opportunity for you.” I said, “Okay, I’m listening.” They said, “It’s kind of funny, but we have 100,000 silver bubble envelopes.”

I said, “Great, okay. How does this involve me?” They said, “Well, it was kind of a mistake, they got ordered. Then the magazine, the catalog that was supposed to go in them got canceled. But we couldn’t return the envelopes.” And I’m still wondering what this has to do with me. The client continued, “We’ve been sitting on them for a long time. Now I’ve been tasked with getting rid of them. We don’t know how to get rid of them. We can’t return them. We don’t really sell them. That’s not what we do. We were going to have them destroyed.”

That did seem like a waste. Then she said something that really stood out to me, especially as an entrepreneur. She said, “By the way, these sell for $2 a piece online.” She sent me the link. I checked it out, and I did. All of a sudden, maybe, you know, I’m not much of a math person, but I am an entrepreneur. I thought 100,000 envelopes, $2 a pop, I could do that math. Like holy moly. Plus, I’m a sales guy. I know how to sell. I’m thinking to myself, “How tough could this be?” Now, I should’ve been thinking, “Why is a major organization, and an organization that’s huge, that does an incredible job at what they do, has an entire sales force to themselves, they haven’t been able to unload these things, why are they asking me about it?”

I should’ve been thinking those things. But I just see $200,000 in my head. Quick, easy, money. Has nothing to do with my business. Has nothing to do with what I do. Has nothing to do with my vision, and my mission, and why I put on the planet. But I see $200,000 and easy money as the banner over this whole thing. Then she says, “If you want them, you can have them if you can think of some creative to do with them.” Oh, I can think of something creative to do. I can sell them. That’s what I can do. I say, “Okay.” I did a little bit of homework. Not enough homework. I was just kind of like excited about it; I got passionate about it. I didn’t check with a whole lot of people about it. I didn’t check with those trusted people, my mastermind group, all of those things. I just went for it.

I’m a pretty good salesperson. I’ve got a pretty good network. How tough can this be, right? Even if I knock 50% off these things, that’s still $100,000 easy money. I started to make phone calls. They did not produce any fruit. I started to send emails. Nobody responded. I started to get a real bad feeling in my gut. It was funny but sad. About a month or so later, I’ve tried to sell these things on the side while I’m running an actual business. But I’ve got these 100,000 silver bubble envelopes sitting in a warehouse.

Finally, I wind up having a workshop close to where these things were being stored. I reached out and said, “Hey, can I come by the warehouse see what this is, all that stuff? See what it looks like? Maybe get a case?” I thought if I got a case of these things, and actually touch them, feel them, it would give me more confidence when I’m trying to sell them. I show up at this warehouse. I meet the guys just off the loading dock, and I explain who I am.

They said, “Oh yeah. We were expecting you. You want to see your wing.” I said, “What?” They’re like, “Yeah, the guys and I kind of have a joke about all these boxes of yours.” I said, “What’s that?” He said, “You pretty much own the back of our warehouse.” He took me back, and 100,000 silver bubble envelopes were the equivalent basically of two semi-truck trailers full of silver bubble envelopes, holy cow. What’s amazing is this, of course, was at a time where nobody was doing any mailing anymore. Just dropped off. Nobody wanted these things. I am embarrassed to admit it, but I wound up paying rent on my little wing of that warehouse, not so little, wing of the warehouse for over a year. Just brutal. Couldn’t move these things. I even did the math on what it would take to dispose of them. That’s what the client was going to do. They were going to dispose of them; maybe I can do that.

It was going to involve trucking; it was going to involve all these disposal costs. I thought, “That’s a waste, plus it’s brutal on the environment. I don’t want to do that either.” I was discouraged. I was beating myself up. I went for the easy money, the easy win, completely outside my mission and vision. Completely outside what I was put on the planet to do. All just because I thought, “Maybe I could score an easy buck.” I was bummed. I was disappointed. But I got a sense of just staying the course. Continued to focus on what I was put on the planet to do. Continued to pray about it. Continued to show up.

Those little words of discouragement that start to get in your head can really snowball. “You made this dumb mistake. You made this idiot move. That means you’re a bad entrepreneur. That means you’re always going to make bad decisions.” That was definitely going on in my brain. But I decided to buckle down, stay the course. I knew that it would work out. I just wasn’t sure when.

Then lo and behold I wind up at an event, and I just had this sense that it was going to work out. But again, I’ve been paying a lot of rent for over a year on these boxes of envelopes. But I show up an event; It’s a weekend-long conference in Chicago. I get there early to set up because we’re going to do a BIG Dream Gathering. Lo and behold, I’m there, I’m there hours before the conference is supposed to start. I’m in this ballroom area by myself. There’s one other organizer there. Everybody else is milling around, and a participant for the conference shows up. His name was Joe.

Nicely dressed, obviously professional, very successful. I hear him interacting with the one person from the conference. Basically what had happened was he had gotten an email, he was kind of in the VIP group. As it turns out, they have been told the wrong start time. He was at the conference; he arrived at the conference hours too early. Everybody else had gotten an email saying, or correcting the timing, but somehow he missed that email, so he arrived hours early. I walked up to him and said, “I’m really sorry that happened.”

He said, “Yeah, no problem. These things work out.” He asked if  I needed some help. Again, he’s VIP for this conference, dressed nice, obviously had success, and yet he’s willing to help, which I just loved, I still love about Joe. We started setting up; we started talking about what each of us does. I tell him a little story, The BIG Dream Gathering. He loves that. But I start asking him about him, and his business. He starts telling me about how he has a fulfillment company. Other companies sell stuff; he gets the stuff to the customer.

All of a sudden, it was almost like a light bulb went off over my head. I smiled, and I said, “Here’s a weird question.” I said, “Do you ever use mailers, like bubble envelopes?” He’s like “Daily. I crank through them.” I thought about trying to be all cool about those bubble envelopes, but decided there was no point in that. So I didn’t try to make it sexy, I didn’t try to make it glamorous, I just shot straight with him on my scenario. We laughed about it; I was appreciative of his grace. I said, “Hey, would you ever be interested in something like that?” He said, “Give me one, I’ll see what I can do.”

As it turns out, Joe went on to buy, and not only buy them but make arrangements to have them shipped. He ordered the semi-trucks to come and pick up the envelopes and have them shipped because that’s also a part of what he did. We were able to make the deal happen. Now, I will tell you that it was pennies versus dollars per envelope. I was able to recoup my costs and make a little bit, but I was just happy to be done with it. What I love about that story is that there were numerous times where I wanted to give up. But you just never know when a breakthrough is going to happen. You never know when that right person is around the corner. That’s literally what happened for me in that case.

But at the same time, probably an even bigger lesson that I needed to learn was that if I’m ever tempted to say yes because I think there’s easy or fast money to be made, I should take a beat. Don’t get me wrong, making money is a good thing. I’m a fan.

But if I’m ever tempted to say yes to something, even though in my gut I know it’s wrong, even if I know in my gut that it’s off my mission, off my vision – If I’m ever tempted to do that, all I have to do is go back in my mind and envision a silver bubble envelope. I am no longer tempted to say yes to something I know that I need to say no to. If you’re ever tempted. If you’re ever tempted to make a quick buck, really check yourself and say, “Is this in alignment with why I’m here? Is this in alignment with my mission? My vision?” Whether it’s for your organization, or for you personally. Envision that silver bubble envelope, because it’s one of those things that if it is not in alignment, no matter how much you make, it won’t be worth it. Easy money almost never is easy.

Ok, last story, and this is one of the most recent ones that I just love. Again, we’ve had all sorts of different people attend BIG Dream Gatherings, and a lot of times we’ll do them on college campuses around the country. Recently we were doing one at Southern Illinois. While we were there, we had a huge turnout, we had about 500 people come to participate, and it was awesome. A whole lot of fun. Oftentimes, we’ll have students, members of the community, a diverse group of people in the room. I love to see who’s in the room, because we always say, “The more diverse the room, the better the chances for great connections, the better the chances for helping people out.”

It was a diverse room. As it turns out, one of the people in the room was a member of the faculty, a guy named Julian Watkins. Now Julian was a part of Southern Illinois legal team. He was an attorney who was on staff to provide legal services to the students. After my talk, he came up to just say, “Thank you so much.” I could tell he’s a great guy doing great work. He let me know he was keenly interested in following up and staying connected.

A few weeks later, he followed up, and he said, “Hey, I just want to say thank you.” I said, “Absolutely. What in particular was helpful?” He said, “You kept talking about the importance of giving yourself permission to dream.” He said, “I guess I just so needed to hear that, to give myself permission to dream, and to give myself permission to take a step towards my dreams.”  I love that. That’s always my prayer; that the right thing, whatever I say, whether it’s something goofy or once in a while profound, that it would come at the right time for each person, and that they would hear what they need to hear.

I said, “I’m so glad.” He said, “Well, I just, I have to say. I’ve been wrestling with this.” He had dreamed of being an attorney and had achieved that dream, But he started to realize that it wasn’t the fit that he thought. He was wrestling with that. He achieved this goal, but it really was a much different experience than he had hoped it would be. He was wrestling with that.

But he kept giving himself that permission to dream, and to give himself that permission to take a step. Interestingly enough, actually within just a few days of his phone call, he saw a job posting. The minute he saw it, his heart just started racing, just felt like it was a great fit. He was so excited at the thought of it; it was an executive director position with the American Red Cross right in his area. It was perfect for him in so many ways except for, as he read the profile, and as he read the qualifications, he felt just wildly excited and wildly unqualified.

He almost didn’t apply for the job. He didn’t feel he was qualified. But he kept hearing that permission. Permit yourself. So he did, he submitted his name. He sent his resume for this position that he loved but felt wildly unqualified for.

To his surprise, and I’m guessing you know where this story is going, is that as they got his resume, met with him, and decided he was absolutely the right person for the job. What’s incredible is just a few months later, he was in that role. He’s been in that role since December of this past year.

Have you ever seen somebody who is clearly in their element? I see that in Julian, and it’s so cool to see.

It is so much about permission for all of us; permitting ourselves to dream. In some cases, it’s giving ourselves permission to dream for the first time, and in other cases, it’s giving ourselves permission to dream again. Maybe a dream that you’ve gone after hit the rocks, or the bottom fell out, or maybe you’re like Julian, you got the dream, but it wasn’t quite what you thought it was. Maybe that’s you, and it’s giving yourself that permission to dream again.

Maybe it’s a step that would move you towards a no, maybe it’s a step that would move you towards something where you’re just not quite sure of the outcome, so it feels like risk, but to give yourself that permission to say yes anyway, to throw your hat in the ring, to raise your hand and go for it. We all need permission to take a risk once in a while. I hope that story helps you as well.

I also hope that you come to a BIG Dream Gathering. We’ve got a full slate this fall. We’re going to be at Augusta University in Georgia, and Wartburg College in Iowa. We’re going to be at Winona State in Minnesota. We’re going to be at the University of Denver in Colorado. We’re going to be at Arizona State. We’re going to be Utah State. We’re going to be at the University of Nevada in Reno all this fall. All starting here in August, and going through November. I hope you come and see us.

We have people come from all over to these events. For some of them, they just have to drive across town, but for some that are making these longer trips, they’re excited to do it. It’s like they feel like it’s drawing a line in the sand. They want to come just even as a prophetic act of taking a stand for their dreams.

Maybe you’re like so many other folks that come, they’re not quite sure what their dreams are, but they want to figure it out. If that’s you, I hope you come. You can go to BigDreamGathering.com or find us on Facebook just a search BIG Dream Gathering; we’ve got a page with all the events, you can also sign up and get involved there. We have a video series where we’ve highlighted and showcased different dreamers from around the country, and love for you to check those out if you’re not checking those out. Real people walking out amazing dreams. You can see those over on our website again, BigDreamGathering, or on our Facebook page. I’d love for you to check them out, be inspired, share, all of that. Because we’re all about getting more people to dream.

There’s a need to share dreams, but just as much, a need for us to connect with each other. Not necessarily around the differences, but around where we can see each other, really see each other and encourage each other, and maybe, just maybe make some dreams happen. That’s what I love, and that’s why, I’m guessing, that’s why you’re listening as well. Especially this far into the podcast, because hey, we’re in this together. I’m so, so excited to be on this journey with you. I hope these stories, even though one of them was embarrassing, helped you. I hope the strategy is something that helps you, especially to stay with that dream. But also invite others into the dreaming journey as well.

I hope you share this. Share it with somebody that might need to hear it.

And please leave a comment below… on the story you most connected with… and/or to share one of your own stories from a BIG Dream Gathering experience.  I’d LOVE to hear from you.

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